Comments on: Bazaar 1.0 released http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/ the personal blog of Stuart Colville covering modern web development techniques and best practices Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:58:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Matt Wilcox http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63804 Matt Wilcox Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:11:32 +0000 http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63804 Ah, brilliant! A little bit beta at the moment, but this is exactly the sort of tool that I would need. Thanks Stuart, I'll be keeping my eye on this. Ah, brilliant! A little bit beta at the moment, but this is exactly the sort of tool that I would need.

Thanks Stuart, I’ll be keeping my eye on this.

]]> By: Stuart Colville http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63802 Stuart Colville Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:55:57 +0000 http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63802 @Matt: That's fair enough however there's also <a href="http://bazaar-vcs.org/TortoiseBzr" rel="nofollow">TortoiseBzr</a> @Matt: That’s fair enough however there’s also TortoiseBzr

]]> By: Matt Wilcox http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63796 Matt Wilcox Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:30:38 +0000 http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63796 Is there a GUI. That is my number one reason for using SVN - I can use Tortoise. I'm a web designer, not a programmer - I want GUI, not CLI. Is there a GUI. That is my number one reason for using SVN - I can use Tortoise. I’m a web designer, not a programmer - I want GUI, not CLI.

]]> By: Stuart Colville http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63795 Stuart Colville Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:06:03 +0000 http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63795 @sil: For me the main points are: Superior branching and merging - De-centralisation means that branching and merging have to be really first-clas. If say you have some code I will branch it, hack on it and then make it available for you to merge. If merging wasn't capable then the whole thing would be capable. Also not needing the central server makes the whole process much more straight-forward especially as you wouldn't need to give me commit rights on your server for example. Renaming is not just an alias for remove and add. Renames are tracked so that subsequent merges involving files that have been renamed are seamless. As I understand it this functionality will be added to SVN in 1.5 Using it anywhere is easy as it's all just files. I can create a repo really easily and shove it up on a webserver to make that branch available to anyone. I can install bazaar on a webserver and version /etc for example to track configurations. The flexibility it gives means you can pretty much adapt it to any situation/dev environment which provides a neat way of side-stepping environment limitations. Lastly as it's written in Python it's so readily pluggable. Though SVN's maturity means that the language bindings do give similar levels of extensibility and beyond. John Arbash Meinel has written a nice comparison that certainly comes across as objective even though he's heavily involved in working with Bazaar http://jam-bazaar.blogspot.com/2007/10/bazaar-vs-subversion.html @sil: For me the main points are:

Superior branching and merging - De-centralisation means that branching and merging have to be really first-clas. If say you have some code I will branch it, hack on it and then make it available for you to merge. If merging wasn’t capable then the whole thing would be capable. Also not needing the central server makes the whole process much more straight-forward especially as you wouldn’t need to give me commit rights on your server for example.

Renaming is not just an alias for remove and add. Renames are tracked so that subsequent merges involving files that have been renamed are seamless. As I understand it this functionality will be added to SVN in 1.5

Using it anywhere is easy as it’s all just files. I can create a repo really easily and shove it up on a webserver to make that branch available to anyone. I can install bazaar on a webserver and version /etc for example to track configurations.

The flexibility it gives means you can pretty much adapt it to any situation/dev environment which provides a neat way of side-stepping environment limitations.

Lastly as it’s written in Python it’s so readily pluggable. Though SVN’s maturity means that the language bindings do give similar levels of extensibility and beyond.

John Arbash Meinel has written a nice comparison that certainly comes across as objective even though he’s heavily involved in working with Bazaar http://jam-bazaar.blogspot.com/2007/10/bazaar-vs-subversion.html

]]> By: Stuart Langridge http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63794 Stuart Langridge Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:24:16 +0000 http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2007/12/17/bazaar-10-released/#comment-63794 From your perspective, what's the advantage in using bzr rather than svn? People keep saying "it's better", but because I haven't tried it much I haven't formed an opinion; what do you think is better about it? I already have a public svn server, so I don't have to suffer the pain of setting that up. From your perspective, what’s the advantage in using bzr rather than svn? People keep saying “it’s better”, but because I haven’t tried it much I haven’t formed an opinion; what do you think is better about it? I already have a public svn server, so I don’t have to suffer the pain of setting that up.

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