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Expectations for Thunderbird 1.5 | Comments (5)

Posted in Tech on 9th December 2005, 12:10 am by Stuart

Ok so now everyone’s probably settled in with Firefox 1.5 it’s probably time to start looking forward to the 1.5 release of Thunderbird. Now I really like Thunderbird; I use it as my main email client on Windows, Linux and Mac OSX. It’s great to have applications that are 99.99% identical across all platforms.

Thunderbird does email very well, which is not that surprising given that email is Thunderbird’s core feature. The RSS support is what I find the most frustrating. I currently use Thunderbird’s RSS reader as my feed aggregator of choice on Windows. I like the fact it’s integrated within the mail application, which makes a lot of sense but it’s not without it’s shortcomings.

OPML

With the release of Thunderbird 1.5RC1 came OPML support and I expected this to allow you to export the OPML feed on one machine and import it on another machine so you would end up with an identical set of feeds. Wrong! All you end up with is a linear list of feeds that needs to be re-organised back into it’s previous hierarchical structure (assuming if like me you had one).

For example I have a blogs ‘folder’, within that I have 3 subfolders splitting the various blogs I am subscribed to into ‘British blogs’, ‘American/Canadian blogs’ and ‘European blogs’. Now when you export as OPML file Thunderbird doesn’t recreate this structure when you import back in.

Grouping feeds

The next issue I have with ‘folders’ (used to group feeds together) is that I can’t see the feeds grouped under the folder I am focused on. On the Mac I use NetNewsWire, why because it just does everything an RSS reader should do. If I hover on the folder that groups together a whole bunch of feeds I will see the list on the right displays all of these feeds available for me to look at.

Mark as read recursively

Thunderbird doesn’t allow you to recursively mark feeds as read. You can only mark feeds read one feed at a time which makes Thunderbird very time consuming to use. NetNewsWire(only on the Mac) allows you to do this without any hassles whatsoever.

Firefox integration with Thunderbird

Another surprising omission is that it isn’t currently possible to get Firefox to send feed urls to Thunderbird. Feed Your Reader is an extension that allows you to send feed urls from Firefox to NetNewsWire and many other News aggregators but unfortunately Thunderbird isn’t one of them.

The Lightning reaction

Mozilla Thunderbird has for a long time been criticised for the lack of an tightly integrated Calendar. However the Lightning project is due out this month and is set to give Thunderbird the calendar it’s been lacking for so long. I for one can’t wait to see this release.

Conclusion

To sum up, We’re all going to have be patient, but I don’t really expect much to change in Thunderbird’s upcoming 1.5 release. Still if in the future the RSS issues can be addressed and if a calendar gets implemented well, Thunderbird will undoubtedly become the firm favorite for email, news aggregation and calendaring.

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1. On December 9th, 2005 at 7:48 pm meryl said:

I use Thunderbird and love it. Just read that it will have tabs in a near future release. One thing that drives me nuts is having to rewrap when I send an email… then it wraps where it shouldn’t wrap. I also miss the Mozilla feature where I could open a web page in a new tab from within an email in Thunderbird. If I click on the link, it takes over the current tab.

2. On December 10th, 2005 at 11:43 am Stuart said:

@Meryl: To fix your problem with links in emails not opening new tabs, open firefox and change the ‘open links from other applications in’ setting in the menu under Tools/Options/Tabs and set it to ‘new tab in the most recent window’.

I tested the above with a new profile and it worked for me. In fact that setting is the default.

3. On December 13th, 2005 at 9:33 am Nathan Pitman said:

The Lightning Project, is that something different to Sunbird? I’ve been using early versions of Sunbird for Calendar stuff and it works well. You can install it as a standalone application or a Thunderbird Extension and it uses the iCal format to store data.

4. On December 13th, 2005 at 9:51 am Stuart said:

The lightning project is a calendar far more tightly integrated with the Thunderbird interface than the existing Calendar extension (which is in effect a launcher for Sunbird from within Thunderbird).

For example Lightning should make it possible for alerts and notifications will come from thunderbird itself which will be a distinct improvement. The main thing that annoys me about Sunbird and the Calendar extension is (as far as I know) I can’t get alerts if Sunbird/Calendar isn’t open.

5. On December 21st, 2005 at 2:40 pm Nathan Pitman said:

That’s right, you don’t get alerts unless Calendar is open, which kinda defeats the object of the alert. :!







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